Sobriety hasn‘t made
Trent Reznor any happier, but he‘s no longer lost in self-pity. The man behind Nine Inch Nails is back and this
time his stalking enemy is no less than the American administration.
Alternative magazine‘s Samara Naiba talks exclusively to Trent Reznor...
For somebody who is said to hate promotional
duties, Trent Reznor is as talented at concealing it as he is at crafting noise.
In fact, despite a hectic, punishing tour schedule he is in a engaging mood. “It‘s
a tough show to sing,“ he says clearing his voice, “it was a pretty brutal
schedule for us with not much time off. It has literally been 3 days on, one day
off, 3 days on and one day off.“
What‘s more, Reznor has become equally‚ focused
on a new recording regime. Twelve months ago he promised his fans that they wouldn‘t
have to suffer the same five-year wait they endured between ‘The Fragile‘ and
‘With Teeth‘ but back then no one could imagine that a new NIN album would be
out as early as April l7th of this year. But lo and behold — one year on and
Reznor is ready to deliver ‘Year Zero‘ - a bleak contemplation of the way the world
is going.
Looking back at the pre-‘With Teeth‘ era, Reznor
blames his past drug addiction for the intense writer‘s block he suffered. “I
used to believe that I needed drugs to be creative and I think there is this
romantic notion around the idea of the artist taking drugs. For some people it
might be necessary... I can say with authority in my own case that drugs and alcohol
were a hindrance to my creativity. Whatever voice I had was being silenced by just
being too fucked-up and numb.“
The price was ultimately paid for that as he realised
he simply couldn‘t write anymore. ‘ My ideas weren‘t good and I couldn‘t think
clearly about anything and then I was caught up in that fear...“ Fear is a word
Reznor continually returns to throughout this interview. Describing writing as
‘the hardest thing I never had to I don‘t have any good ideas? What if that was
the best one did?“
But gradually, he has come to realize that each
song may not be the best thing he has ever done, but nonetheless he will keep
on writing until something feels good to him. “Being sober allows me to realise
that I might suck, but so what? That‘s why ‘With Teeth‘ took that much time to
come out. I wasted my time being afraid the whole time until I eventually
reached the point where I was either dead or better and I chose to get better,
but then I didn‘t know whether the price of getting better meant I could never write“
Slowly climbing back up his downward spiral,
Reznor is clearly still fighting his insecurities but now he has an objective
eye on the direction his music career is going to take. “I was at a point where
I had been clean for a few years and I had taken all the pressure off my plate
for a while and allowed myself to feel ok by being in my own skin. Now I have
to answer the question, can I write sober and do have anything to say?“
However, Reznor hasn‘t faced his creative recovery
alone. He also required a push from famed rock producer Rick Rubin. “I always admired
Rick Rubin‘s work and known him as a friend for a good ten years at that
point... I spent some time in his place and as I started writing, it went from
being something terrifying to something fun. He was making me write two songs a
week. I’d never ever done anything like that but somewhere along the line, I
felt that I knew what I wanted to sound like.“
Regaining his confidence, Reznor realised he no
longer needed assistance “That s not to say that what Rick was adding to it
wasn‘t good; I just needed to do what I wanted to do without checking it with
anybody, so we talked about it and it wasn‘t me firing him or anything like
that, we just had been working informally. I just told him I needed to go off
on my own and do this.“
If you‘re looking for proof that Reznor has finally
faced down his creative demons, you have to look no further than Year Zero‘ – a
complex and deeply impassioned collection of tracks that belay the rough and
ready approach he initially took towards writing them. “I started writing on
the last tour because I was really bored. I enjoy touring for the two hours a
day on the stage but the other 22 hours can be a bit tedious... I never had any
luck writing music on tour because I thought I had to have a full studio and
candles lit and the right temperature and several hours to sit.‘
Indeed, Reznor gradually found the limitations
of working on a laptop to be a great inspiration. “If I had a free half an hour
here and there on a bus ride or backstage before a show, I’d sit down and see
if I could come up with some musical idea. I didn‘t work on lyrics at all but I
did stumble around on ideas until I came up with a way of doing things that really
sounded inspiring to me. I didn‘t start off with a plan that this was going to
happen but through needling around, I stumbled on some things that really
excited me, and exciting is the kind of criteria to move forward.“
Once he had found a sound he liked he realized
he needed a message behind it. Fortunately, it wasn‘t hard to find something to
say. “It probably felt like the most focused work I have ever done. It felt
like I had a sense of purpose. It was clear early on that it was going to be a
record about the state of affairs of the world and much less about me and more
about the way people are treating each other and interacting and how it feels
from an American point of view.“
Reznor is clearly interested in raising some serious
issues. In ‘Year Zero‘ he opens up his political stance and makes his bete
noire the wheels of the American administration. Inspired by current affairs
and the tragic events the world has seen unfolding on its TV screens, he has
found that it is frighteningly easy to forecast the dystopian future that awaits
us. “What I’m trying to get across with this record is a portrayal of what the
world might be like if we continue down the path that we‘re on; the path that
is dictated by greed and a lack of concern for or compassion for other people
or any sense of human life, in a world that is run by big business.“
With maturity has come a real sense of worry
arid concern about the way that the American administration is behaving and
treating its people and the rest of the world. “It was only a few short years
ago that we re-elected them because unfortunately the conservatives, the
neo-cons have lined themselves up and portrayed themselves as being the world
of Jesus Christ. They use polarising issues such as gay marriage to align
themselves with the Christian side of things, and there‘s lots of these people
and they‘re very organised and they came out on the road in the last
presidential election and got this guy back in office.“
Naturally, central to his concerns with the
American administration are the way they‘re running the war in Iraq.
“Every reason that we were told to go there was
a lie. Seeing that the war has turned into what it is; that there wasn‘t a plan
and there was no reason to go to Iraq. All that evidence is coming out.
The facts are lining up but 1 don‘t think people realising that Bush is a liar
can fix the problem because the infrastructure is set up to keep someone like
that in power. Big business is powerful and they‘re not going to allow their
fortunes and their future to be left to change.“
Added to this bleak political climate is a
litany of other troubling issues which have become crucial to Reznor, “That
swell of evangelical Christians that feel that it might be a good thing to
promote the end of the world and the portrayal of all Muslims as evil that we
see in the west, the fear of religion or fear of homosexuality or fear of the
unknown, of the East. The manipulation of all news that we receive, this
propaganda, it‘s hard to tell what‘s real and what isn‘t real... That‘s not a
place I think we want to end up and I thought about writing about it and trying
to make it as real and as scary as I can.“
Cleverly, Reznor has decided to talk about
these issues by setting ‘Year Zero‘ in a fictional future where the damage has
been done. The question he ran into upon completing the record was how to
convey this idea without sledge-hammering it home in the liner notes. Toying
briefly with the idea of making a movie that the album would soundtrack
(something that would take too long and involve too much ass-kissing),
ultimately he decided to sell the idea with a carefully co-ordinated viral
campaign.
“For those who are interested, the fact of
discovering it and piecing it together is part of the whole thing. It‘s not
meant to be figured out by one person; it‘s meant to be sifted through by the
community. It is satisfying for me to see that come together and hopefully in
the process it inspires some dialogues and thoughts about some of these issues
I’m discussing.“
The future is bright for Trent Reznor. You can
see it in his eyes. He‘s learnt a vital lesson: it‘s not what people think of
you that counts; it‘s what you have to think for yourself.
“I hope that there‘s some people out there that
will want to get the album and get into it,“ he adds, “But I don‘t care if it
can t be played on the radio I don t care if there aren’t any singles if the
record label doesn’t like it, if it’s unmarketable, I don‘t give a fuck if there
is a video for it or not. I’m doing what feels right for me to do,“ he insists
very articulately, “And if it‘s not fashionable I don‘t care. I don‘t like
what‘s fashionable right now.“
With these words and a strong desire to make up
for the time being numb, he reveals that he has already started writing the
second part of ‘Year Zero‘. Nothing it appears, can stop him now.
Words:
SAMARA NAIBA
Photos: ROB
SHERIDAN
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